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Can you share your views on DevOps implementation processes?

Hi,

Could you spare a few minutes to talk to me about your views on DevOps implementation?

I’m currently looking at possible topics to tackle around database DevOps, as part of planning whitepapers, webinars, case studies and content for our blog over coming months. I’d like to drill deeper into the stages organizations & teams go through when moving towards a DevOps way of working, to understand the pain points and challenges.

I’d be really interested to speak to anyone who would be happy to share insights, whether from your own organization or from your work with clients. Are you (or a client) in the process of introducing automated processes in the deployment pipeline, evaluating and implementing technologies around CI/CD, and driving a DevOps cultural change across teams and organization (or at the end of this process, and already up and running and happy to talk about the experience)?

Some questions as starting points:

• Who is typically driving the process within organizations – development teams, DBAs, IT operational management, senior directors, CEO/CTO?
• What are the key drivers for change – frequency of deployment, reduced overheads, data protection and compliance, reduce application downtime etc?
• Is the cost of investing in new technology a blocker, or is there an understanding that the eventual financial benefits will require investment in tech?
• How does the database become part of the conversation? Is it part of initial planning, or is it a hurdle along the way?

If you’re happy to share your thoughts on any of the above, and/or would be interested in working with me on a webinar, blog article or case study, leave a comment here or email me: mary.robbins@red-gate.com

Many thanks
Mary_R
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  • stuart_r_ainsworth
    Hey Mary, I'd love to talk about our experiences with you, although we're early in our journey. We're also driving DevOps from the ops side (my team is NOT in development), and we have some interesting cultural baggage to deal with (financial services, conservative organization, data masking concerns).

    I'm very proud of what we're doing, but I also understand that it's very tailored to our organization, so it may be tough to generalize. Be glad to discuss, however.
    stuart_r_ainsworth
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  • rjdudley

    We're finally getting a serious effort going. For background we have around 1800 team members just in technology, with somewhere around 50 database engineers (DBEs) shared across the development teams. Various development teams over the last couple of years tried their own initiatives, but the DBEs were reluctant to change. The DBEs saw it as their work to do, and there was no technology-wide initiative for CI/CD so it just never got done.

    We now have a technology-wide mandate for CI/CD

    • What are the key drivers for change – frequency of deployment, reduced overheads, data protection and compliance, reduce application downtime etc?
    • Is the cost of investing in new technology a blocker, or is there an understanding that the eventual financial benefits will require investment in tech?
    • How does the database become part of the conversation? Is it part of initial planning, or is it a hurdle along the way?
    rjdudley
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  • rjdudley
    1. Who is typically driving the process within organizations – development teams, DBAs, IT operational management, senior directors, CEO/CTO?

    We're finally getting a serious effort going. For background we have around 1800 team members just in technology, with somewhere around 50 database engineers (DBEs) shared across the development teams. Various development teams over the last couple of years tried their own initiatives, but the DBEs were reluctant to change. The DBEs saw it as their work to do, and there was no technology-wide initiative for CI/CD so it just never got done.

    We now have a technology-wide mandate for CI/CD, which has come from the top down to everyone, but it was a few team members advocating very strongly to the senior leadership.

    2) What are the key drivers for change – frequency of deployment, reduced overheads, data protection and compliance, reduce application downtime etc?

    Our CI/CD adoption corresponds with a wider understanding of agile across teams. We've been trying agile for several years, tweaking our processes, and we're ready to take the next step. For us it's largely the ability to deploy more frequently, with less friction, and without working our DBEs to exhaustion.

    3) Is the cost of investing in new technology a blocker, or is there an understanding that the eventual financial benefits will require investment in tech?

    Not really, especially since our DBEs all use RedGate tools and have a lot of familiarity with them. One of our sayings is "numbers and money follow, they do not lead", so we're not afraid to make investments. Compared to some of the other things we buy, RedGate is relatively cheap.

    4) How does the database become part of the conversation? Is it part of initial planning, or is it a hurdle along the way?

    For us, from the beginning.
    rjdudley
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  • eduardopiairo
    Hello Mary,

    I would be happy to share with you my view of DevOps implementation process.
    eduardopiairo
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  • Mary_R
    Thanks for the responses guys. I'll reach out to you individually by email.
    Mary_R
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