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Oh boy. I'm so p*****d right now. I uninstalled all RedGate products from my machine leaving only JetBrains products. I don't know, I'm not minding anymore even if I bought the profiler packages. I just feel I couldn't trust RedGate. I even had to create a new account just to post my rants here.
(now eyeing JetBrains profiler [image] ) / comments
Oh boy. I'm so p*****d right now. I uninstalled all RedGate products from my machine leaving only JetBrains products. I don't know, I'm not minding anymore even if I bought the profiler packages. I...
JDelekto wrote:
Well, as I see it, 'quality' of the product did not take a dive at all --in fact, it increase in quality when Red-Gate took it over, for the simple reason that the .NET languages have changed in form.
I can assure you that an older version of Lutz's Reflector would make more "garbledy-gook" out of the C# 3.0 language specification where the compiler used so much "syntactic sugar" it would make its teeth rot.
Upgrading to a new version to stay up to date with the new languages in .Net platform doesn't make it a good quality. That is why it is called an upgrade!
JDelekto wrote:
I'm actually thankful that someone was able to take over the development of reflector so that one could make better sense of reading the code (though still not perfected) much better as the language itself generated new code.
Oh I was also thankful... until now. THEY BETTER MAKE THIS PERFECT! :evil: If not, it makes no difference at all than what it was before when it was free... still not perfect... but the thought of the .Net framework constantly upgrading... GOOD LUCK!
JDelekto wrote:
I happen to appreciate their products.
I happen to appreciate it too... but not anymore. What I can see? Is a pitiful move to save the company revenues. They should fire their business executives. / comments
JDelekto wrote:
Well, as I see it, 'quality' of the product did not take a dive at all --in fact, it increase in quality when Red-Gate took it over, for the simple reason that the .NET languages...
JDelekto wrote:
Which is probably covered by the 50 licenses Red Gate donated.
Out of millions of users using... only 50... and you are impressed...
JDelekto wrote:
Perhaps their announcement was to notify others that they would begin charging for the product and the product did not yet force an upgrade which asked them to pay.
Or perhaps it was a big i'm-sorry-my-a** to the community for not being able keep the Reflector as a free tool widely (globally) used in the .Net community. You do understand that Reflector is like the bread and butter to every .Net developer. / comments
JDelekto wrote:
Which is probably covered by the 50 licenses Red Gate donated.
Out of millions of users using... only 50... and you are impressed...
JDelekto wrote:
Perhaps their announcement...
This was because of the implied belief on the words "to continue to offer the tool for free to the community". There was not a statement makes the community to believe that they are going to put a price to it when they lose revenues like "to offer it for free as long as we can".
As taken from the announcement:
We know that this will cause pain for some people in the .NET community, and we apologize for the change in policy.
We'll as always, save the company... nevermind the community... selfish but true eh? / comments
This was because of the implied belief on the words "to continue to offer the tool for free to the community". There was not a statement makes the community to believe that they are going to put a ...
Right. Founded since 1999... hmmm... I guess the open source community is much more successful than them eh? [image] Couldn't even maintain the reputation of Reflector being free for more than seven (7) years. We'll, I guess this is what to expect for selling Reflector off to a "commercial and relatively small company".
As again. Good luck! [image] / comments
Right. Founded since 1999... hmmm... I guess the open source community is much more successful than them eh? Couldn't even maintain the reputation of Reflector being free for more than seven (7) y...
KristoferA: I wonder what you feel if all browsers all of a sudden charge you with a nominal fee. You should even charge them for your support [image] on them making so much revenue.
Read between the lines:
KNOW HOW TO CHANNEL TO NEW MARKETS TO COMPENSATE THE LOSS.
I never expected them to have such novice Sales Executives or whatever. And by the way, it was free before RedGate contacted Mr Roeder to claim this tool for benefits and sh**. RG bought this on 2008 just THREE YEARS AGO, this has been free BEFORE 2008. Version 4 was released on 2004: http://blog.lutzroeder.com/2004/05/net- ... or-40.html. The heck, all the basic functionalities in reflector are already working before they acquired this tool. from 2008 to 2011, what have they done? VS integration and some language improvements? the heck, add-ins are much more useful than this.
However, yes, it is still their decision since they have the right, it's just that, THIS IS ALREADY LEAVING A BAD IMAGE TO THE COMPANY. What is the effect? Open source community "might" just create another tool same as this. The customers lost due to this move will be more willingly to support the open source instead. (Like what happen to NetScape Navigator). And guess who will be making more revenue? The open source my boy! OPEN YOUR EYES MAN! This is what made IE and firefox so successful.
But as you said... it is still up to the owner. I'm just another person who is against it. Good luck! [image] / comments
KristoferA: I wonder what you feel if all browsers all of a sudden charge you with a nominal fee. You should even charge them for your support on them making so much revenue.
Read between the line...
Right, let me rephrase:
it would HAD been better if this tool WAS turned over to open source. The open source community would have a lot to offer to the improvement of this utility. KristoferA, in reality, RedGate has a lot of tools that are NOT offered for free. And in reality, not all softwares are being offered with a price. These people offering for free just know HOW TO CHANNEL TO NEW MARKETS TO COMPENSATE THE LOSS. That is why google chrome is free, thunderbird is free, Open Office and so on... Heck, Firefox has even a lot of users than RedGate and its still free. Get it? Have you really woken up to reality Bro?
They can even put ads or something on the free version or whatever... JUST THINK!
This reminds me of what happened to netscape, how its started as a free version and they turn to selling the product instead and how it went kapooch after a few years burned down by IE. Only difference is that, the browser was their idea, for RG, bought from someone else... / comments
Right, let me rephrase:
it would HAD been better if this tool WAS turned over to open source. The open source community would have a lot to offer to the improvement of this utility.KristoferA, in r...